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[edit] Implemented

[edit] Notification on Main Page of Replies to Comments

When a user replies to a comment in a thread, an icon is displayed next to the thread on the main page of the original poster. This is done on a per-user basis, so each user can see if their comments have received a reply. It would only be displayed if the reply was added after the user has visited the main page, or another thread (eg, not if they are still reading the thread). Replies would be determined by the quote blocks, and/or the use of bold text around recognized user names. (Noimspartacus)

  • Added July 30rd, 2007.


  • This is already done for users who donate. It's not practical to offer it to everyone because it uses too much server load Grahams 21:52, 29 July 2007 (PDT)
    • Moving to implemented page because this feature already exists. Ratfucker 20:54, 31 July 2007 (PDT)
Yea Nay
Noimspartacus



[edit] Zapped Post Lockdown

As it stands, there is a fairly simple (and only slightly devious) workaround for unzapping a post, if you suspect in advance that it will be zapped.

A lockdown would mean that once a post hits -3 and is zapped, it's flagged as zapped in the database, and new votes aren't accepted. This would prevent zapped post resurrection.

  • Bug fix applied - votes cast against comments whose scores are <= -3 are now ignored. This is not necessarily the end of this discussion - I just whipped off a bit of code to plug the hole, acting on my own. I'm not sure what policy implications, if any, might be involved. Cranky bastard 10:32, 30 July 2007 (PDT)
    • grahams is cool with this code fix - color this one "done." Cranky bastard 10:51, 30 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Doesn't this just effectively mean that more weight is given to downvoters who are present at the time of the original comment, then upvoters who may be a little slower? I don't see any point in that. Jrhoward
    • Not always, Jrhoward. The issue was becoming a real problem: Someone posting in a thread, something that deserved to get voted down, gets voted down, that someone would use an alt or a friend to vote his post back up from a clipboarded URL or non-refreshed version of the page, and repeat as often as they felt like keeping up with it through other people or alts. It got abused. I'll move this one to the archived items page in a few days. Ratfucker 01:42, 31 July 2007 (PDT)
Yea Nay
Vin diesel,Sarmydoc, Eddyatwork Jrhoward



[edit] Keep track of "Cool" scores in Bio

We should keep collective track of users' "Cool" scores in the Bios. vendaz

  • I've coded up something called the "Combined 'Cool!' Score" on the profile page. This is the sum of all comment scores greater than zero for the user. I figured this was a simple hack - let's see what people think. Cranky bastard 16:11, 17 July 2007 (PDT)
Yea Nay
vendaz, Elchip Joe091
  • Should we add a little math and display a ratio (total posts/cool) as well?
Yea Nay
swami-on-rye

[edit] Keep fresh meat on top

New topics fall off the top of the list too quickly. As they get displaced by the current hottest nut.... fresh meat should stay on the top for 5 minutes or so. Or maybe peg the new topic to the top until the next new topic, then release it to fall where it may.


How's it look now? Fresh stuff should loiter at the top for longer, even above busy relevant threads Grahams 20:45, 8 July 2007 (PDT)


Yea Nay
ratfucker, Vin diesel, brazil, elchip, CaponeX, Andbruno swami-on-rye


[edit] Add extended bio to profile

Add a link to everyone's profile page that links to the Extended bio of the same name on bnWiki

  • I thought this would be utterly simple, but the wiki munges user names in interesting ways. Looks like I'd have to code "Capitalize first alpha character, then replace embedded spaces with underscores" to create the links. Is that right, or is there more to it than that? I don't suppose this wiki has any sense of a bN user account number, does it? That would greatly simplify things. Cranky bastard 12:58, 6 July 2007 (PDT)
    • You've probably already got this, but if you want something you can just copy and paste, here's a bit of perl code to do the "Capitalize first alpha character, then replace embedded spaces with underscores" translation:
      $id =~ s/\w.+/\u\L$&/;
      $id =~ s/\%20/_/;
      That, or Parser Function with the Data Extension might be promising. (Note, I want the parser function with data anyways because of the cool stuff we could do with it :p). --Chippey 21:47, 8 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Why not just... give us an extended bio field for us to populate in our profile? Maybe grahams has given a reason, but I haven't seen it. Elchip 19:21, 8 July 2007 (PDT)
    • That's another solution, certainly - but if linking to the wiki extended bio pages is as simple as a little username string manipulation, is there a reason not to just do it that way? The wiki code has a lot of built-in magic, after all. I suppose it might boil down to issues relating to whether or not others are able to modify your extended bio information. Sounds like more of a sociological puzzle than an engineering one - citizens controlling their own extended bio information versus possible 'wiki wars' among the citizenry. Cranky Bastard 21:05, 8 July 2007 (PDT)
      • Wiki has an audit trail. So the wars would likely be short lived and punishment meted out to the guilty.  :) I like the magic that is the wiki. --brazil 22:07, 8 July 2007 (PDT)
  • All right, it's done. Some folks have managed to create oddball wiki user names that include underscores, and I don't know what to do about that, but the link from the bN profile display to the Wiki extended bio page works for folks with embedded spaces. Cranky Bastard 10:33, 9 July 2007 (PDT)


Yea Nay
Vin diesel, brazil,Chippey None


[edit] Ability to delete profile submissions in your undisplayed submitted bios

I've got a few with broken images and stuff that I could not display because some people gave me NSFW bios. I'd like to be able to delete them, especially if the above is considered. Ratfucker 20:37, 8 July 2007 (PDT)

  • Trash collection is important. --brazil 22:10, 8 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Done. Cranky Bastard 12:11, 9 July 2007 (PDT)


  • This one is moderately high on my development list. Expect to see it in the next 2 weeks. Grahams 13:33, 9 July 2007 (PDT)


Yea Nay
ratfucker,Vin diesel, MuninsFire,swami-on-rye, brazil,elchip None



[edit] Link on the front page

Why is the wiki still not linked on the front page? Elchip 19:34, 8 July 2007 (PDT)

  • I noticed that it is in the "help" page, but that makes it more difficult for people who aren't already aware of the wiki to find and learn and edit it. Elchip 20:03, 8 July 2007 (PDT)
  • I suggest that we make it Vox. Between the Logon/off and Help. Logooff Vox Help --brazil 22:14, 8 July 2007 (PDT)
  • Can someone clean up the front page of the Wiki to suitably link to the Ministry of Truth and provide the best possible "landing page" for new and lost users and I'll change the links around Grahams 13:34, 9 July 2007 (PDT)
    • I'll take the first crack at this tonight. brazil 17:18, 9 July 2007 (PDT)
    • Tell me what you think Grahams. brazil 19:58, 9 July 2007 (PDT)
      • My two cents: The page looks good, first of all. You might want to add a link to the Suggestion Box page, just to make it easier to find. Also, you might want to add a little disclaimer indicating that Banned Ventures LLC assumes no responsibility for Voice of the Proletariat content. Pesky legalese, I know, but the devil is in the details. Overall, I think you're doing a hell of a job with the wiki - "A++++, would highly recommend!" Carry on... Cranky Bastard 22:59, 9 July 2007 (PDT)
        • The front page of the wiki links to virtually nothing on the wiki, but links back to the ministry of truth. Why have a wiki at all then?
        • Ok, I added suggestion box and the disclaimer. And I've added a couple more items to the anon complainer's point above. Oh, and the content of the Main Page is by request of the guys legally responsible for this site anon person. brazil
  • Wiki link should be on the front page, next to chat (or something, but that seems perfect). - Andbruno 08:16, 10 July 2007 (PDT)


Yea Nay
ratfucker, Elchip, Vin diesel, Chippey, swami-on-rye, brazil, Ludditemike, MuninsFire, Andbruno, Kesshi



[edit] bN Wiki Logo for Consideration

  • bNwiki.png
  • Subitted by CaponeX
  • Done. Cranky Bastard 11:03, 9 July 2007 (PDT)
    • Hey, what happened to all the cool banners and buttons caponeX had posted :( They got deleted from this page, are they somewhere else on the site?
      • They're here: banners I suggested moving them off the Suggestion Box thread beacuse they're really more like "site resources" or something, and the next time I looked, they were gone from this page. They do need to be linked somehow so folks can find them. Cranky Bastard 09:24, 10 July 2007 (PDT)


Yea Nay
Vin diesel, Chippey, elchip, Andbruno


[edit] How to vote on these

I'm not a big wiki expert, can we get anything on this page that lets people vote yay/nay on suggestions with some degree of automation? --Vin diesel 15:47, 6 July 2007 (PDT)

  • Usually, voting on Wikis is accomplished by implementing a "Yea" section and a "Nay" section for the item to be voted on, and then having people four-tilde sign the appropriate section with a reiteration of their vote.Muninsfire 17:05, 6 July 2007 (PDT)
    • I'm gonna try re-organizing it to fit this method. --Vin diesel 22:32, 6 July 2007 (PDT)
      • Actually it's better on many fronts. The TOC takes care of stretchy. I created this page, and I think you should swap it out for your new one. --brazil 12:59, 7 July 2007 (PDT)

clarity on who voted for what.


Yea Nay
brazil None

[edit] Tag item while still in Queue

Description

I would REEEEEEEEEaly like to have the ability to pre-tag things whilst they are still in the queue, if for no other reason than to not have to see them when they hit the main page.

Comments

  • Why not let the submitter optionally supply one tag for his submission?
    • Submitter picks one tag that will be displayed if the link gets mainpaged? My concern is that it could be easily abused if the submitter wants to be an asshole and submit inappropriate tags that otherwise would not normally be displayed by pair in someone else typing the same thing. I'll vote Yea on this, but I'd much prefer a list of 10-20 static tags (that are generic enough) to assign to our submissions in the queue. Ratfucker 12:30, 11 July 2007 (PDT)
      • So, like, "breaking news", "spiffy", "gross", "asinine", "obvious"... things like that? --Leperflesh 22:14, 22 July 2007 (PDT)
    • based on what I've seen often in use on the site, we can come up with plenty of default tags that wouldn't be clones of stuff that we saw on Fark. With a good group of generic-enough tags, people could still effectively prioritize stuff through their profile "tags I like/dislike" options, but still be motivated to supply additional tags in the thread on top of it. Stuff like "NSFW," "Politics," "Bannination," "Breaking News," etc. More like what I had described below after this section. Ratfucker 23:13, 22 July 2007 (PDT)
  • politics, religion, sexuality, odd news, etc. I wouldn't start labeling them with descriptive adjectives like gross or spiffy. I may want to ignore an article on a sports figure, but it has the same tag as one about Karl Rove. --Token 16:24, 26 July 2007 (PDT)
    • Token has a very good point. Keeping the in-queue tag set to strict nouns would probably be the best route. Topical and not descriptive: Politics, Legal, Sports, Sex, Funny, Strange, Breaking, NSFW, etc... That would be a good theme for pretags to follow. Ratfucker 20:20, 3 August 2007 (PDT)

Voting

Yea Nay
Ratfucker, brazil, ludditemike, elchip,Vin diesel, MuninsFire,Chippey, fark, Finkmota, Kesshi, Token, CaponeX, Pizdets, Eddyatwork, Mnemosyne9, Wushupork, Space None


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