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[edit] How to Vote
* Log in (same user/pass as Bannination) * Click "edit" on the section you want to vote on, * Find the line that corresponds with your vote, Yea/Nay * Add a comma to the last name in that line, * Type three ~'s to add your name without a timestamp, * Click Save.
Please click (edit) next to the subsection you want to vote or comment on, and not the entire page, to avoid accidentally erasing someone else's changes to this page.
[edit] Comments and Posts
Anything that involves the inside of a thread goes here, including tagging, which has its own section on this page.
[edit] Show Times in User Local Time
Description
- Show all times in user local time.
Comments
grahams <--- Another Disembodied name.
- This is actually non-trivial because converting between time zones is actually quite complex. Cranky did a little testing and it would make a typical 100 comment page take 3-4 times longer to load and we can't handle that kind of load.
- The options are roughly:
- Do the conversion on the client side. We could just send the comment times as X seconds ago and a javascript function on your machine would apply that to the local clock.
- Do the conversion once per thread and compute the hour offset from the server clock.
- Neither would handle threads that cross DST boundaries correctly, but that's probably not a huge deal (and it's why the simple approach is very expensive).
Cranky bastard 22:56, 1 August 2007 (PDT)
- I cooked up some code to do a full-blown king-hell implementation that would let users specify their local time zone in their profiles and then do time zone conversion with some routines from the DateTime Perl module, but it turned out to be computationally expensive. As an alternative, I'm thinking about including comment timestamp information in the form of 'seconds since the epoch' in a hidden field on the comments pages and then having a JavaScript jigger take that information and then render 'seconds since the epoch' into local client time. Problem is, I'm not a JavaScript expert - I screwed around with it a little bit many years ago, but many moons have come and gone since that time. So, I could use some pointers to example JavaScript code that basically loops through all the {foo} items on a page, runs the {bar} function to convert seconds-since-the-epoch times to client local time, and updates the {quux} item to display local time. For extra credit, I need to know if/how Javascript could parse and understand a bN-generated user cookie, so that we could have a profile setting indicating "Yes, I'd like my timestamps localized" or "Just leave the timestamps alone and show them in server time (Los Angeles)". I suppose the simple act of providing comment timestamps in 'seconds since the epoch' form would open the door to time-zone localization in the form of a plugin, but I don't use the plugins (long, sad story). All I know is that I'm sick of doing time-zone arithmetic in my head (and it's simple for me - I'm an hour ahead of Los Angeles). Aside from all the engineering details, though, I'm curious as to how many other folks want this feature - if I'm in the minority, I can always just slap in some code that says "If user=cranky, adjust by one hour to shut him up!"
- TBH, seems unnecessary. I've never thought twice about timestamps on any other site I've used, whatever their locale was. It really doesn't matter to me on bannination, either. Seems like a whole lot of work and resource hogging for something that's fairly trivial. Ratfucker 20:14, 3 August 2007 (PDT)
Please do not strip names and timestamps from comments left by other users.
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| brazil, Eddyatwork, Gahbrone, joerandom, Faethe,Xenotoxin, Sarmydoc | Ratfucker |
[edit] Voting Descriptions/Reasons
- Submitted By: Reed Solomon
- Submitted On: July 23rd
Description
ive already stated the best solution is instead of cool/inapropriate, have cool/lame and inappropriate would instead take you to another page where you explain how something is inapropriate maybe a drop down box. id also say limit moderation to people who post in a thread, so that not any jackass can do it. but the main thing is the inapropriate button is being abused. (Reed Solomon)
Comments
- I would simplify this idea by replacing the "Inappropriate" link with a pulldown that gives 5 or 6 reasons on why you consider it inappropriate. Simple reasons could be: "Spam," "Abusive," "NSFW," "Obscene," ...etc... Voting "yes" because in some way, this idea (or the above), however it could be implemented, could be helpful. Ratfucker 15:08, 26 July 2007 (PDT)
- I would absolutely not limit moderation to people who post in a thread, in fact that's worse than a bad idea. One of the things slashdot does very right is not let you moderate a thread that you've posted in, to discourage the most overt bias. But I would like to see a dropdown reason list included along with the downvote button. --Vin diesel 01:44, 31 July 2007 (PDT)
- I would simplify this idea by replacing the "Inappropriate" link with a pulldown that gives 5 or 6 reasons on why you consider it inappropriate. Simple reasons could be: "Spam," "Abusive," "NSFW," "Obscene," ...etc... Voting "yes" because in some way, this idea (or the above), however it could be implemented, could be helpful. Ratfucker 15:08, 26 July 2007 (PDT)
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| Ratfucker,Eddyatwork, Space, Sarmydoc | Kesshi |
[edit] Image Hidden Feature
- Submitted by: Kesshi
- Submitted on: Around, 20th July 2007
Description
While the user has images turned off, change the [image hidden] to be a hyperlink to the hidden image.
Comments
- This should be utterly trivial to code. Frankly, the only reason I haven't looked at it so far is my concern about the cases in which the image link is presented as a hyperlink/image in the first place - I've wondered whether the trivial solution of just wrapping the image link in an anchor tag would rip the fabric of space-time if there were already an anchor tag wrapper in place (did you follow all that?). One of these days, I'll get Just In The Mood(TM) and code this up anyway, and damn the consequences. What's the worst that could happe %$#%$@#%%!*&^+++NO CARRIER Cranky bastard 22:40, 18 August 2007 (PDT)
- Heh. I went in to the code to add this feature, but it's already there. Silly me for not noticing it before, I guess. Anyway, this suggestion has been implemented. Cranky bastard 13:21, 22 August 2007 (PDT)
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| Kesshi, Elchip, Joe091, Ratfucker, MuninsFire, ignoramus,Double negative | fark |
[edit] Mark Zapped Comments in Profile
- Submitted by: Unknown.
- Submitted on: Unknown.
Description
Mark the ones in your profile that were zapped with an *
Comments
- This is a bit of a Zen puzzle, is it not? The purpose of displaying user comments on profile pages is to provide a direct link to that comment - but if the comment was zapped, there's nothing to see. Cranky bastard 22:42, 18 August 2007 (PDT)
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| brazil, Elchip, Leperflesh, Kesshi, Ratfucker, fark, Finkmota |
[edit] Start Anonymous Posts at -1
- Submitted by: Ratfucker
- Submitted on: Around July 9th.
Description
Enough Said.
Comments
- I only say nay because sometimes anon is good, such as in confession threads, and the like. I am not a coward, so I post under this one name. There are some things I'd like to keep anonymous, and not all anon posters are trolling cowards. Andbruno 21:45, 9 July 2007 (PDT)
- bruno: currently if you have naBBit, any vote of -1 on a post will be pulsing
(and -2 will be flashing 
). I wouldn't make them so eyecatching if voting down was just a matter of taste, but you're only supposed to vote down something that you think should be zapped, so I think it's appropriate to call people's attention to those votes so you can either vote it back up or zap it. So most anon posts at -1, my eye would be drawn to and I'd probably vote up, unless they sucked, in which case I'd either do nothing or vote down (if they sucked really hard). --Vin diesel 03:46, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
- bruno: currently if you have naBBit, any vote of -1 on a post will be pulsing
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| ratfucker, Kesshi, Vin diesel, Finkmota | Andbruno, elchip, Ludditemike, Joe091, fark |
[edit] Anon Username Restrictions
- Submitted by: Ratfucker
- Submitted on: Around July 10th
Description
Static anon username "Anonymous Pansy" or the like, or at least a way to prevent anonymous posts from using registered usernames.
Comments
- Nay to the first part, yea to the second. But overall, I'd say Nay, because someone could just do "andbruno2" or "ambruno" etc. -Andbruno 07:58, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| ratfucker, MuninsFire, Vin diesel, Hell Toupee, Elchip, Finkmota | Kesshi, Andbruno, Joe091, fark |
[edit] Vote a Thread NSFW
- Submitted by: Unknown.
- Submitted on: July 20th
Description
Threads currently marked SFW sometimes take a turn for the NSFW direction - either the submitter should have predicted it, or, it was an unpredictable turn of the conversation. Rather than continuing to insist on all posts being SFW (including language), or relying on the language-filter, I think it should be possible for some number of participants to vote a currently-open thread into NSFW territory. Put a widget at the bottom of the page, with the current total up and down votes for the thread being NSFW. Of course once a thread goes NSFW, you shouldn't be able to vote it back... because posters will (presumably) have already begun posting NSFW materials.
Comments
- Post your NSFW crap in a NSFW thread so I can keep my job, please. Thank you very much. Kesshi 14:55, 20 July 2007 (PDT)
- I say Nay to this for one specific reason: It wouldn't discourage people from posting NSFW stuff in a thread that is marked as SFW because they can use the excuse that people can vote to switch the status of that thread... making moderation to vote down NSFW material in a thread that started out as SFW a tricky issue. Ratfucker 18:20, 21 July 2007 (PDT)
- I concur. If it's SFW, people should behave--not try to turn a thread NSFW. MuninsFire 07:33, 23 July 2007 (PDT)
- Suggestion for those wishing to convert a thread: start a new, NSFW, one (as a discussion), get the other thread members to vote it up. Maybe a way to get those types of threads frontpaged really fast? (would require an existing thread to avoid spam). Not completely thought out, just a suggestion. Mughi 14:10, 23 July 2007 (PDT)
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| Leperflesh, ignoramus, Finkmota, Double negative | Kesshi, Ratfucker, MuninsFire |
[edit] Tagging System
Anything tag-related.
[edit] Tags for Scheduled Threads
- Submitted By: Strayling
- Submitted On: 12:12, 6 August 2007 (PDT)
Description
Add an automatic tag which indicates the subject of scheduled threads. For example, it's not immediately obvious that In angelo cum libello is a book discussion thread. Having the thread automatically tagged with books would help with setting up tagging preferences and main page navigation.
Comments
My initial thought is that the automatic tag would be set up when the thread is first created. We'd need to figure out who could change it and how.
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| Strayling, Eddyatwork, Kesshi, Faethe, Sarmydoc, Space |
[edit] Another Variation: Pre-Set Tags + Custom Tags
- Submitted by: Ratfucker
- Submitted on: Around July 8th.
Description
This idea would involve an agreed upon 10-20 tags that would be selected as part of link submission via pulldown. One tag is chosen from the pre-set list by default while the tag box in threads allows people to add to the tag cloud. The pre-set tag picked from the pulldown would be permanent in the tag box and could not be removed with enough -tagname minus votes... but would continue to grow if enough people duplicate the pre-set tag.Ratfucker
Comments
- I like that, but grahams has made it clear he's strongly (strrrrrongly) opposed to pre-set tags. As in, I don't think it'll happen unless he has a stroke or gives the site to someone else.
- I still think it would be cool so I'll sign it, but I'd rather we can agree on something he'll go for, rather than insist on a scheme he'll never accept and stay stuck with what is it now. --Vin diesel 19:59, 8 July 2007 (PDT)
- I like it, too. Some presets would be handy for setting preferences, cause really, who knows what you screwballs are going to tag a thread with. Ludditemike 08:25, 9 July 2007 (PDT)
- In fact, rather than using defined presets, why not pull the presets from the X most used tags, where X is some convenient number. This still requires either 1) users to enter some useful tags or 2) a sensible set of defined presets to start, let them morph and grow as they will --Ludditemike 11:58, 9 July 2007 (PDT)
- Vague, generic tags could be pre-selected from the pulldown as I previously suggested. Between some practical tags and a group of the most used ones (politics, whine, bannination, etc) should make up a suitable enough set of static tags to chose from. This would at least allow some of us to have an idea of which tags (that are never left to chance) we can add to our "tags I don't like" spot in the profile... which would keep folks from having to wait until a thread is tagged before it disappears from their main page if they have, for example, "politics" in their dislike group. Ratfucker 12:35, 11 July 2007 (PDT)
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| ratfucker, Vin diesel, Ludditemike,Kesshi, Finkmota | elchip, MuninsFire, Andbruno |
[edit] Mandatory Queue Tagging
- Submitted by: Unknown
- Submitted on: Unknown.
Description
Don't allow items to make it to the front page unless they have been tagged with something (and seconded). To discourage people from submitting alternate headlines saying "Tagged: whaaaaaambulance", either disable alternate headlines altogether or disable alternate headlines until something has been tagged and seconded. With the limitation of alternate headlines, though, a "Preview" option is a must when submitting.
Comments
- No Comments Yet
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| elchip,Kesshi | none |
[edit] Remove word wrapping in Tag Cloud
- Submitted by: Lincoln
- Submitted on: Around July 21st
Description
Currently the tag cloud word-wraps tags, which I personally find anoying. It'd look cleaner if each tag stayed on one line. --Lincoln
Comments
- This may have the unintended effect of making the area before the first headline much, much longer. Ratfucker 18:21, 21 July 2007 (PDT)
- Limit tags to a maximum of, say, 32 or 64 characters, and ensure such a line length will always fit.--Leperflesh 22:16, 22 July 2007 (PDT)
Voting
| Yea | Nay |
|---|---|
| Lincoln, Leperflesh | Ratfucker |
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Suggestion Box for banniNation Improvements New Items * Template to Add a New Suggestion * Most Active Suggestions (Moved to page because of too many comments) * New Suggestions Older Open Suggestions (These items are still open for voting!) * Suggestion Box Queue Items * Suggestion Box Comments Items (Tagging Items Included) * Suggestion Box Metrics Items * Suggestion Box Other Stuff Items Suggestions Being Implemented or Archived (Closed to voting) * Under Development * Quality Assurance * Implemented Suggestions * Stalled and Rejected Ideas Suggestion Box Total Table of Contents (ALL items not on main page indexed here) * Suggestion Box TOC
